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''See also:'' [[:en:Talk:Intergalactic travel#The Main Factual Point]], [[Fermi Paradox]] | ''See also:'' [[:en:Talk:Intergalactic travel#The Main Factual Point]], [[Fermi Paradox]] | ||
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below doesn't make clear that its content is meant to be in opposition to Kurzweil's concept in his book where he explicitly argues that we are alone in the Universe. Also leaves unstated the possibility/probability that communication with ETSI can have roughly the same effect/role in the transformation of human societies to participation in the contingent being mentioned. | |||
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'''Why I hold there will be scientific confirmation or disconfirmation of the concept soon.''' | '''Why I hold there will be scientific confirmation or disconfirmation of the concept soon.''' | ||
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The thing that reason indicates but does not dictate is that we are not the first species to reach the level of scientific civilization, discounting for the moment whether in fact we have. The odds on that should be proportional to 100 billion to one. In fact there should at least some that have done so at least thousands and probably millions of years before now in our time relative to the origin of this universe. If only two generations of stars are required to make a medium in which intelligent life can be cultured, then this may have occurred as long as two or three billion years ago, about the time life was being shaped into its current architecture on the Earth. | The thing that reason indicates but does not dictate is that we are not the first species to reach the level of scientific civilization, discounting for the moment whether in fact we have. The odds on that should be proportional to 100 billion to one. In fact there should at least be some that have done so at least thousands and probably millions of years before now in our time relative to the origin of this universe. If only two generations of stars are required to make a medium in which intelligent life can be cultured, then this may have occurred as long as two or three billion years ago, about the time life was being shaped into its current architecture on the Earth. | ||
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In the Abrahamic concept the being is in a direct relationship with Man and directly affects | In the Abrahamic concept the being is in a direct relationship with Man and directly affects events on Earth at least up until about -600 BCE. So assuming the being is outside this universe, there could be one of two situations: either we find there is no other apparent life at our level or higher in the universe or that there are relatively many. A few more advanced than us would be many relative to our current understanding. If none, then that could be taken either as an indication that the being purposely acts to prevent there being any, i.e. a "confirmation" of an active culling of such species. | ||
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The notion of "outside this universe" could also change and be substantiated or not by astrophysics/cosmology but the case to be dealt with is this one. One could take no ETSI¹ as an indication of a culling of species that reach our level or above, the final limit of the attribution of an intentional force behind nature and by virtue of the confirmation of the culling this time a reasonably convincing one. | The notion of "outside this universe" could also change and be substantiated or not by astrophysics/cosmology but the case to be dealt with is this one. One could take no ETSI¹ as an indication of a culling of species that reach our level or above, the final limit of the attribution of an intentional force behind nature and by virtue of the confirmation of the culling this time a reasonably convincing one. | ||
