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I | All authenticated users have write access to most talk pages here, but not this one. Considering a wiki instance for each proper geonode with write access to front matter, but here in commons/staging it's limited to operator class. As noted in the [[:en:user_talk:lycurgus|enwiki talk page]], I now limit my edits of the front matter there to tidying up. Happy to talk about an article, produce a version of one [[EnWP| here ]] where I am "Root" not "Lycurgus", . [[User:Root|Root]] ([[User talk:Root|talk]]) 12:10, 11 May 2020 (UTC) | ||
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== Simple Principles for [[:en:World Revolution|<font color="pink">World Revolution</font>]] == | == <span style="background-color: black;">Simple Principles for [[:en:World Revolution|<font color="pink">World Revolution</font>]] </span>== | ||
[[File:Synthesis of Socialism and Capitalism.svg|left|thumb|200px|[[:en:History of the socialist movement in the United States|Socialism with American Characteristics]].]] | [[File:Synthesis of Socialism and Capitalism.svg|left|thumb|200px|[[:en:History of the socialist movement in the United States|Socialism with American Characteristics]].]] | ||
* <span class="plainlinks">[http://meansofproduction.biz/pub/PolitikAlsBeruf.pdf <font color=" | * <span class="plainlinks">[http://meansofproduction.biz/pub/PolitikAlsBeruf.pdf <font color="red">Disintermediation</font>]</span> of [[:en:demiurge|<font color="red">the relation</font>]] between the lead workers and the [[:en:society|<font color="red">consumer</font>]] of ihr labor so that [[:en:Sociocracy|<font color="red">it</font>]] is that of <span class="plainlinks">[http://meansofproduction.biz/pub/anacharsisClootsRepOfHumongs.pdf <font color="red">one sovereign</font>] to [https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/economics/rousseau/social-contract/ch02.htm <font color="red">another</font>]</span>. | ||
* [[:en:Production for use|<font color=" | * [[:en:Production for use|<font color="red">Production for use</font>]]¹ (at cost) of socially necessary goods and services transparently accounted in a common money based on labor time which working [[:en:money creation|<font color="red">people create</font>]] themselves. | ||
* A pragmatic <span class="plainlinks">[https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/ch05.htm <font color=" | * A pragmatic <span class="plainlinks">[https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/ch05.htm <font color="red">transitional Program</font>]</span> but one that never compromises the most rapid advancement to the realization of these two end goals (political disintermediation and de-privatisation of the [[:en:means of production|<font color="red">basis of subsistence/production</font>]]).<blockquote><small> So for example the first principle might be worked out at [[:en:participism|lower levels]] than provincial or national level before regionally or internationally but from the beginning it should sweep clean private tyrannies and conspiracies from the bottom up. And it might not be able to be applied at the local level until there is sufficient understanding of how to do so. But an advancement in understanding is itself a sufficient gain that its solidification can be associated with a more or less sudden collapse rather than a slow [[:en:withering away of the state|<font color="red">withering away</font>]] of structures of the old society can be anticipated. Similarly the fiat money of the nation-state system can co-exist with the new relegated to its proper sphere. </small> </blockquote> | ||
[[File:Nested council.png|thumb|right|upright=2.0|''[[:en:E pluribus unum]]'']] [[User:Lycurgus|Lycurgus]] ([[User talk:Lycurgus#top|talk]]) 23:39, 18 March 2015 (UTC) | [[File:Nested council.png|thumb|right|upright=2.0|''[[:en:E pluribus unum|Out of Many, Juan]]'']] [[User:Lycurgus|Lycurgus]] ([[User talk:Lycurgus#top|talk]]) 23:39, 18 March 2015 (UTC) | ||
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¹<small>Bifurcated post revolutionary situation where the sphere of reproduction and unnecessary production separate.</small> | ¹<small>Bifurcated post revolutionary situation where the sphere of reproduction and unnecessary production separate.</small> | ||
== Reply to struth on an Article by E.J.Dionne == | == <span style="background-color: black;">Reply to struth on an Article by E.J.Dionne </span>== | ||
WaPo closes comments after two weeks so I'm compulsively responding to <span class="plainlinks">[http://meansofproduction.biz/images/WaPoEJDKapitalismus.jpg this reply] to my comment on E.J. Dionne's article [https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/capitalists-should-listen-to-bernie-sanders/2015/12/27/e16ebaa0-ab2b-11e5-bff5-905b92f5f94b_story.html ''Capitalists should listen to Bernie Sanders'']</span>. | WaPo closes comments after two weeks so I'm compulsively responding to <span class="plainlinks">[http://meansofproduction.biz/images/WaPoEJDKapitalismus.jpg this reply] to my comment on E.J. Dionne's article [https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/capitalists-should-listen-to-bernie-sanders/2015/12/27/e16ebaa0-ab2b-11e5-bff5-905b92f5f94b_story.html ''Capitalists should listen to Bernie Sanders'']</span>. | ||
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[[User:Lycurgus|Lycurgus]] ([[User talk:Lycurgus#top|talk]]) 21:37, 12 February 2017 (UTC) | [[User:Lycurgus|Lycurgus]] ([[User talk:Lycurgus#top|talk]]) 21:37, 12 February 2017 (UTC) | ||
== [[:en:Master-slave_dialectic#Hegel.27s_myth|A Religious Definition of Communisms]] == | == <span style="background-color: white;">[[:en:Master-slave_dialectic#Hegel.27s_myth|A Religious Definition of Communisms]] </span>== | ||
That spectrum of conceptions of the organization of [[:en:society]], in which it, society as a whole, has effectively reached full self-consciousness, [[:en:classless society|transcending those objectifications]] of the other vestigial in socialisms and which are the hallmark of primitive social orders, in a pure relation of the individual to society, not just the nation state, local power elites, revolutionary cadres, etc. but the totality of living beings of at least one's species of origin. [[Special:Contributions/72.228.177.92|72.228.177.92]] ([[User talk:72.228.177.92|talk]]) 15:11, 4 December 2011 (UTC) | That spectrum of conceptions of the organization of [[:en:society]], in which it, society as a whole, has effectively reached full self-consciousness, [[:en:classless society|transcending those objectifications]] of the other vestigial in socialisms and which are the hallmark of primitive social orders, in a pure relation of the individual to society, not just the nation state, local power elites, revolutionary cadres, etc. but the totality of living beings of at least one's species of origin. [[Special:Contributions/72.228.177.92|72.228.177.92]] ([[User talk:72.228.177.92|talk]]) 15:11, 4 December 2011 (UTC) | ||
== about CANDE == | == <span style="background-color: black;">about CANDE</span> == | ||
I wrote the B6500 version of CANDE, which was quite different from the 5500 version, and both have been heavily modified over the years. You can contact me at ivan at ootbcomp dot com. | I wrote the B6500 version of CANDE, which was quite different from the 5500 version, and both have been heavily modified over the years. You can contact me at ivan at ootbcomp dot com. | ||
:noting Igodard wrote above, so there's no confusion I'm saying I wrote the [[:en:CANDE]] MCS. [[Special:Contributions/198.255.198.157|198.255.198.157]] ([[User talk:198.255.198.157|talk]]) 13:13, 21 April 2014 (UTC) | :noting Igodard wrote above, so there's no confusion I'm saying I wrote the [[:en:CANDE]] MCS. [[Special:Contributions/198.255.198.157|198.255.198.157]] ([[User talk:198.255.198.157|talk]]) 13:13, 21 April 2014 (UTC) | ||
== End of IP editing == | == <span style="background-color: black;">End of IP editing</span> == | ||
The situation with ip edits is like the failure of Socialism with the current human stock, the masses of the old society, this being borne to me by the recent need to block such from the US Congress. Until now I felt that it was preferable to defend anonymous editing in the spirit of wiki but I see the wrongheadedness of this now so will only edit mainspace with this account which is the only named one I've ever used to edit here. [[User:Lycurgus|Lycurgus]] ([[User talk:Lycurgus#top|talk]]) 05:54, 28 July 2014 (UTC) | The situation with ip edits is like the failure of Socialism with the current human stock, the masses of the old society, this being borne to me by the recent need to block such from the US Congress. Until now I felt that it was preferable to defend anonymous editing in the spirit of wiki but I see the wrongheadedness of this now so will only edit mainspace with this account which is the only named one I've ever used to edit here. [[User:Lycurgus|Lycurgus]] ([[User talk:Lycurgus#top|talk]]) 05:54, 28 July 2014 (UTC) | ||
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::Probably will, and do want to stop completely at some point, still compulsively correcting, responding to tags, the more egregious distortion/falsehoods, mostly by IP for last 6 mo or so, and always clearly traceable back to here. [[Special:Contributions/98.4.124.117|98.4.124.117]] ([[User talk:98.4.124.117|talk]]) 22:22, 15 April 2017 (UTC) | ::Probably will, and do want to stop completely at some point, still compulsively correcting, responding to tags, the more egregious distortion/falsehoods, mostly by IP for last 6 mo or so, and always clearly traceable back to here. [[Special:Contributions/98.4.124.117|98.4.124.117]] ([[User talk:98.4.124.117|talk]]) 22:22, 15 April 2017 (UTC) | ||
== <span class="plainlinks">[https://meansofproduction.biz/eg/index.php/The_Future_of_an_Illusion The Future of an Illusion]</span> == | :::New opportunity with recent release of the cable ISP ip, we'll see how it goes. Should have this CMS SSO enabled soon. [[User:Root|Root]] ([[User talk:Root|talk]]) 15:55, 17 January 2020 (UTC) | ||
== <span class="plainlinks">[https://eg.meansofproduction.biz/eg/index.php/The_Future_of_an_Illusion The Future of an Illusion]</span> == | |||
I don't have time to defend content from attack such as [[:en:The Future of an Illusion|this article]] is currently under. There's a modicum of social service I will perform here but pretty much at or past my limit in dealing with the individual attacking this article. Will pull this into my space and [[The Future of an Illusion|change the link]] on my user page to point to it rather than conflict with the individual FreeKnowledge-Something. The established and ongoing policy, otherwise my wiki editing service would be a horror of dealing with such individuals. Don't want. I will work with others to defend the public content, otherwise TRTTD is the course mentioned/taken. [[User:Lycurgus|Lycurgus]] ([[User talk:Lycurgus#top|talk]]) 09:02, 15 March 2015 (UTC) | I don't have time to defend content from attack such as [[:en:The Future of an Illusion|this article]] is currently under. There's a modicum of social service I will perform here but pretty much at or past my limit in dealing with the individual attacking this article. Will pull this into my space and [[The Future of an Illusion|change the link]] on my user page to point to it rather than conflict with the individual FreeKnowledge-Something. The established and ongoing policy, otherwise my wiki editing service would be a horror of dealing with such individuals. Don't want. I will work with others to defend the public content, otherwise TRTTD is the course mentioned/taken. [[User:Lycurgus|Lycurgus]] ([[User talk:Lycurgus#top|talk]]) 09:02, 15 March 2015 (UTC) | ||
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:In closing (I hope) noting that I didn't carefully read everything the individual had to say, in particular didn't read all the text he put on the talk thread I opened. [[User:Lycurgus|Lycurgus]] ([[User talk:Lycurgus#top|talk]]) 09:53, 15 March 2015 (UTC) | :In closing (I hope) noting that I didn't carefully read everything the individual had to say, in particular didn't read all the text he put on the talk thread I opened. [[User:Lycurgus|Lycurgus]] ([[User talk:Lycurgus#top|talk]]) 09:53, 15 March 2015 (UTC) | ||
== Help fix the gender bias on Wikipedia? == | == <span style="background-color: black;">Help fix the gender bias on Wikipedia?</span> == | ||
Hi there - I'm working on four fix-the-Gender-Bias articles, listed here [[User:LeoRomero/scxc]]. Could use your expertise. - Thanks and [[Mabuhay]]! - ''[[Monty Python's Life of Brian#Cast|LoRETta]]''/[[User:LeoRomero|LeoRomero]] 18:59, 15 December 2015 (UTC) | Hi there - I'm working on four fix-the-Gender-Bias articles, listed here [[User:LeoRomero/scxc]]. Could use your expertise. - Thanks and [[Mabuhay]]! - ''[[Monty Python's Life of Brian#Cast|LoRETta]]''/[[User:LeoRomero|LeoRomero]] 18:59, 15 December 2015 (UTC) | ||
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::I'm not planning to resume editing so responding now. Since the response above have learned that wiki recognizes [[WP:BIAS]] but basically it's what I allude to, namely a result of the demographics of the primary contributors. Nonetheless acknowledging it is a thing. Since there's a whole set of projects addressing it ... . [[User:Lycurgus|Lycurgus]] ([[User talk:Lycurgus#top|talk]]) 21:36, 25 August 2016 (UTC) | ::I'm not planning to resume editing so responding now. Since the response above have learned that wiki recognizes [[WP:BIAS]] but basically it's what I allude to, namely a result of the demographics of the primary contributors. Nonetheless acknowledging it is a thing. Since there's a whole set of projects addressing it ... . [[User:Lycurgus|Lycurgus]] ([[User talk:Lycurgus#top|talk]]) 21:36, 25 August 2016 (UTC) | ||
== [http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/the-fermi-paradox-is-not-fermi-s-and-it-is-not-a-paradox/ On the sogennante 'Fermi Paradox'] == | == <span style="background-color: white;">[http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/the-fermi-paradox-is-not-fermi-s-and-it-is-not-a-paradox/ On the sogennante 'Fermi Paradox'] </span>== | ||
It's only a paradox because we are just at the point where we can ask the question, having only had language and what is called thinking, civilization, and science for successively shorter periods of time. Today there is still no human culture based on scientific values and only 1 known to me with any [[:en:Scientific Outlook on Development|program]] to have such a basing. So in a way even asking the question is presumptuous, given the current state of cultural development of the questioner. | It's only a paradox because we are just at the point where we can ask the question, having only had language and what is called thinking, civilization, and science for successively shorter periods of time. Today there is still no human culture based on scientific values and only 1 known to me with any [[:en:Scientific Outlook on Development|program]] to have such a basing. So in a way even asking the question is presumptuous, given the current state of cultural development of the questioner. | ||
