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     <span style="position:relative;top:5px;"> A: <span style="color:lime;">No, they are wholly structured as in #1. Before industrial Capitalism there were other relations of production. After it there will be something else. Production always returns to its material basis in use values including at every developmental stage of RC and in its momentary circuits.</span></span><br></li>
     <span style="position:relative;top:5px;"> A: <span style="color:lime;">No, they are wholly structured as in #1. Before industrial Capitalism there were other relations of production. After it there will be something else. Production always returns to its material basis in use values including at every developmental stage of RC and in its momentary circuits.</span></span><br></li>
<li style="position:relative;top:25px;">Q:<span style="color:lemonchiffon;"> Don't buying and selling and money imply the Capitalist model of the enterprise/firm, joint stock ownership by non producers, etc.?<br>
<li style="position:relative;top:25px;">Q:<span style="color:lemonchiffon;"> Don't buying and selling and money imply the Capitalist model of the enterprise/firm, joint stock ownership by non producers, etc.?<br>
   <span style="position:relative;top:5px;">  A:<span style="color:lime;"> Again, no not at all, and for the same reason, exchange of production and its accounting are constants of organized social life. The other things are by contrast just contemporary realizations of structures of oppression and domination realized in their modern form. If you have participated as a worker in wage labor markets unless you are dull or have aspirations to be a master and don't really in the end care about production, you are probably keenly aware of the degree to which the model of efficient production is violated in favor of the expression of the master slave relation between workers and capital up to and including CEOs who act as embodiments of Capital in production, or attempt to.</span> </span></li>
   <span style="position:relative;top:5px;">  A:<span style="color:lime;"> Again, no not at all, and for the same reason, exchange of production and its accounting are constants of organized social life. The other things are by contrast just contemporary realizations of structures of oppression and domination realized in their modern form. If you have participated as a worker in wage labor markets unless you are dull or have aspirations to be a master and don't really in the end care about production, you are probably keenly aware of how profit extraction is the only true religion in this form of production and the degree to which efficient production is violated in favor of the expression of the master slave relation between workers and capital up to and including CEOs who act as embodiments of Capital in production, or attempt to do so.</span> </span></li>
<li style="position:relative;top:35px;">Q: <span style="color:lemonchiffon;">Aren't you a Capitalist by selling the service you do and buying labor to build parts of that service?</span><br>
<li style="position:relative;top:35px;">Q: <span style="color:lemonchiffon;">Aren't you a Capitalist by selling the service you do and buying labor to build parts of that service?</span><br>
   <span style="position:relative;top:5px;">  A: <span style="color:lime;">#4 answers the first part, the second haven't done.  Continued on discussion page. I'm a primitive Capitalist in the sense Marx refers to in the final sentence in the quoted passage above (cf. "self earned private property" further down in V I ch 32).</span></span></li>
   <span style="position:relative;top:5px;">  A: <span style="color:lime;">#4 answers the first part, the second haven't done.  Continued on discussion page. I'm a primitive Capitalist in the sense Marx refers to in the final sentence in the quoted passage above (cf. "self earned private property" further down in V I ch 32).</span></span></li>

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