Entrepreneur

So below was in the original Entrepreneur talk page but now is essentially hidden. Originally these two threads were on the same page.

Back matter

That 'Operations Research' is 'Enterprise Research' in German only hints at what cannot be expressed in mainspace, viz., that the whole notion of the Entreprenuer is deeply entrenched in and a hallmark of the capitalist mode of production (CMoP). This is a sweeping generalization, but sweeping generalizations are not in general false. Where it fails is in the case of an individual who is in fact a lead worker and not a "people manager" whose job it is to oversee the workers who actually realize the undertaken project, on the model of Edison, Ford, etc. These exceptions do exist but they are rare today and getting rarer. This is what I meant by the Anglo-Saxon model of the firm, especially entrenched since the second world war which views enterprise management as essentially nothing more than people management. This makes sense in CMoP because that is what every Enterprise there is *really* about, i.e. the extraction of surplus value from the workers that actually produce the value embodied in the enterprise. 'Technical" details embodied in bodies of work which constitute management science are just that, details for drones to work out, drones managed by the "visionary" Entrepreneur who must also be an excellent liar and con-man as he executes his real function as overseer while filling the figurehead position of lead worker. It's this and the fact that the will of capital must be embodied in a living consciousness in the production process that explans the contradiction of executive compensation bizarrely out of scale with that received by the actual producers or for that matter the actual performance of the enterprise. Lycurgus (talk) 16:20, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

The above has now lost its context in the article. Current text is more polished but doesn't affect the point made above about the relation between an "entrepreneur" and an actual "doer". The excised text referred to the Hochdeutsch cognate for the term, Unternehmer, and that OR in german is Unternehmungs Förschung. The point being that that which is generally undertaken by the "entrepreneur" is seldom any doing other than hustling/talking/"people mangaging"/etc. 72.228.177.92 (talk) 18:55, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Where's the criticism?

76.120.17.197 (talk) 04:56, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

well wikipedia discourages having a whole section devoted to criticism SamanthaG (talk) 15:17, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

actually it doesn't. An overriding local value is a truncated sort of objectivity. However as I noted above it's not going to fly in this case, at least anytime soon, so the back matter above is likely to be it. Probably most that can be done on the mainspace page is some mention of its presumption of Capitalist relations. 76.180.168.166 (talk) 10:49, 28 March 2013 (UTC)