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<li>Q: Aren't Capitalist relations we are familiar with today necessary, inevitable?<br>
<li>Q: Aren't Capitalist relations we are familiar with today necessary, inevitable?<br>
     A: No, they are wholly based on #1. Before industrial Capitalism there were other relations of production. After it there will be something else. Production is actually based on use values.</li>
     A: No, they are wholly based on #1. Before industrial Capitalism there were other relations of production. After it there will be something else. Production is actually based on use values.</li>
<li>Q: Don't buying and selling and money imply the Capitalism of the joint stock firm?<br>
<li>Q: Don't buying and selling and money imply the Capitalist model of the enterprise/the firm?<br>
     A: Again, no not at all. These things predate and will survive Capitalism as we know it. Exchange of production and its accounting are constants of organized social life.</li>
     A: Again, no not at al, and for the same reason, exchange of production and its accounting are constants of organized social life.</li>
<li>Q: Aren't you a Capitalist by selling the service you do and buying labor to build parts of that service?<br>
<li>Q: Aren't you a Capitalist by selling the service you do and buying labor to build parts of that service?<br>
     A: #3 answers the first part, the second I'm committed to not doing and sofar haven't. The distinguishing thing is I am in the end, in sofar as the thing delivered at the level of social production is concerned, the sole producer. The fact that I am able to do that upon the basis of considerable prior production notwithstanding, as that's the general condition of production at any advanced point in culture. It's my intention to build structures/platforms that allow others to operate as sovereign producers as well. It is not the acquisition of money, or even a great deal of it that makes you a Capitalist but rather the means by which the acquisition occurs. This distinction is already made clear in the difference between earned income and capital gains. Of course within the Capitalist framework, such as the US IRS, earned income includes earnings as a Capitalist by commanding wage labor production directly or by shareholder proxy. I am simply carrying that to its limit, blowing off capitalist relations and earning only from what I do in fact build myself. This embodies my idea of the reform of Capitalism, the step needed to be taken to the thing which succeeds it by building on it rather than trying to recreate the world naively on some ill considered basis. Ironically, the thing that is called capital gains, at least insofar as interest on capital which isn't directly engaging wage labor or engaged in specific profiteering is concerned, is I think the least objectionable and most acceptable expression of the power of capital. When it is the pure embodiment of social labor power and separated from the  relations of production the contradictions will have been resolved. Ironically or not, I also expect that the next stage of Capitalism will heighten some elements currently perceived generally as negatives but as before they will be offset by such benefit as to be welcomed, eagerly by some, grudgingly or surreptitiously by others.
     A: #3 answers the first part, the second I'm committed to not doing and sofar haven't. The distinguishing thing is I am in the end, in sofar as the thing delivered at the level of social production is concerned, the sole producer. The fact that I am able to do that upon the basis of considerable prior production notwithstanding, as that's the general condition of production at any advanced point in culture. It's my intention to build structures/platforms that allow others to operate as sovereign producers as well. It is not the acquisition of money, or even a great deal of it that makes you a Capitalist but rather the means by which the acquisition occurs. This distinction is already made clear in the difference between earned income and capital gains. Of course within the Capitalist framework, such as the US IRS, earned income includes earnings as a Capitalist by commanding wage labor production directly or by shareholder proxy. I am simply carrying that to its limit, blowing off capitalist relations and earning only from what I do in fact build myself. This embodies my idea of the reform of Capitalism, the step needed to be taken to the thing which succeeds it by building on it rather than trying to recreate the world naively on some ill considered basis. Ironically, the thing that is called capital gains, at least insofar as interest on capital which isn't directly engaging wage labor or engaged in specific profiteering is concerned, is I think the least objectionable and most acceptable expression of the power of capital. When it is the pure embodiment of social labor power and separated from the  relations of production the contradictions will have been resolved. Ironically or not, I also expect that the next stage of Capitalism will heighten some elements currently perceived generally as negatives but as before they will be offset by such benefit as to be welcomed, eagerly by some, grudgingly or surreptitiously by others.

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